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Julie FidlerUser is Offline

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06/12/2008 11:39 PM  
Out of everything you guys read in FYWO, what was the hardest for you to hear?  Did it make you angry?  Did it make you sad?  Was it just really shocking?  What was it, and why did it affect you so much?  Was there anything that left you with more questions than answers?

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Hope139User is Offline

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06/13/2008 6:14 PM  
There wasn't anything that was particularly hard for me to hear, I had a good idea about most of the stuff already, but the one thing that most surprised me was the extent to which they want our respect. And I must admit, that did make me a bit sad, because it made me think of all the times I've said things that probably hurt one of my guy friends :(, but I'm a lot more careful now, so I'm thankful that i had my eyes opened to that.

May the Lord bless and keep you, may His face shine upon you, and be gracious and give you peace.
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06/14/2008 7:15 AM  
Well, for me, nothing was really too hard to hear, but it did help to show me that Guys arent as complicated as us girls. like I always though guys also gave mixed signals, but they dont... well most dont... but yeah, the respect thing... that was an eye opener, like i knew my dad and brother valued respect but i didnt realize most guys did... and I know of times Ive said something without thinking that could have been misinterperated as disrespectful, and now i realize I have to watch what I say...

Turn up the music
Turn it up loud
Take a few chances
Let it all out
'Cause you won't regret it
Lookin' back from where you have been
'Cause it's not who you knew
And it's not what you did
It's how you live

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God Bless!
Mwah XOXO
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staciUser is Offline

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06/14/2008 1:16 PM  

Truthfully what seems most shocking to me was that guys would rather have respect then love. While reading it I asked some of my close guy friends what they thought and I received some answers that just backed up the book. I also receive answers like “why are u reading a book about guys you can already figure us out.” Another thing that shocked and disappointed me when I first herd it was that all guys look at girls in a sexual way, I heard this from my best friend (who is a guy) before I even got to that chapter when I first told him I was reading the book and I was curious about why guys would rather be respected, he made me realize that with respect and time love will come but you can’t assume that respect will come with love.

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06/20/2008 2:34 PM  
the hardest to hear, for me, was the respect chapter. i had an idea that men needed respect, sure, but not THAT much. i didn't know they craved it, y'know? i'm a very sarcastic and usually pessimistic person. and these past few weeks, God's been showing me how i've been, unknowingly and all too quickly, putting my boyfriend down when he needs to be built up. i just finished reading fywo only this afternoon, and boy, did it open my eyes! i felt so convicted during the respect section. i know i'm going to be trying, and praying, so much harder to respect my boyfriend, because he needs it more than i've ever known.
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katesophUser is Offline

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06/23/2008 4:38 PM  
the hardest thing for me to hear was probably how much guys really need the respect like emilyjanelle said.When i was reading i felt really bad and sad about how much i wouldn't respect the guys in my life like my brothers, dad, and guy friends. Now that i read this book it really opened my eyes that i have to show them more respect. Even if at times if i didn't mean to disrespect a guy i could tell that maybe i did say something wrong. But in the book it can be how you say things and your body language can show disrespect. So that was the hardest thing for me.
dramakweenUser is Offline

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06/26/2008 5:18 PM  
I'd say the whole chapter on how to dress was hard, because frankly sometimes I want that attention, even if it is the wrong kind and the wrong way to get it. It makes me feel good to get honked at when walking down the street or whisled at in the mall, so to hear that it was hard for the males made it hard for me too, because its so hard to dress decently. If that makes any sense at all

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06/26/2008 11:27 PM  
of course it does! that makes complete sense, dramakween, i know how you feel. but God looks at the heart and so should guys. or any guy worth dating/marrying, hm? you betta believe it, girl!
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prettygirlUser is Offline

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06/26/2008 11:34 PM  
i understands completely dramakween! i dressed a certain way i knew i would get attention in cuz i loved to have guys tell me i looked awesome, or they would whistle, and i liked being paid attention to and i didn't really see what was wrong, cuz i wasn't like super immodest, my dress would just be kinda tight/shorter. im still kinda trying to get over it and dress the way i should. i mean, i don't wear short shorts (never really wanted to) but my dress would be halter and very form fitting. i really helps to have sum1 to be an accountability partner and tell you, no, don't wear that, ahead of time.
strikergrrl12User is Offline

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06/28/2008 2:04 PM  
the dress thing is definitely the most difficult to do..
i mean, its hard to think that what we wear has so much of an effect on guys, even when we think it is just cute.
NikkinikkiUser is Offline

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06/29/2008 11:38 PM  
I never realized the strong effect we had on guys.
I knew that we had some power,
but we hold so much power!! It's scary!!
Nothing was really hard to hear.
We know what we're like, i think
the thing that shocked me was how wise
some guys are, and they know what we're like,
you know with how catty we can be to each other.
That's why God created Man For Woman.
Cause two Woman, WOW! that would be Chaos!

I've Been Spinning Around In Circles, In A Huge Field, Hands In The Air, I Don't Care, Looking To The Sky. I'm Free. Abandoned, Submitted To God.
nicoleUser is Offline

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07/02/2008 12:40 PM  
Nothing was really hard to hear. I guess the thing that got me thinking most was the whole modesty thing. I know I dress overall decent (My Mom would slaughter me otherwise) But I never knew it had THAT big of an affect on guys.
mayceeUser is Offline

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07/07/2008 7:22 PM  
the hardest thing for me to hear was about the whole mean girl thing... i wondered what guys thought of me after i read that one quote from a guy when he said something about when one girl does something mean the whole gender seems cruel.... i would hate to think that a guy thought i was a "mean girl"
ggirl124User is Offline

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07/08/2008 9:22 AM  
I guess that the visual thing was hardest to hear because like some of my guy friends just don't seem like that but now i am way more careful around them......another thing that not really shocked me but got my attention was the whole respect thing. it makes me think about what i say to them because i don't want to hurt them so now i am way more careful
BeeUser is Offline

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07/14/2008 1:56 PM  
It wasn't necessarily what they said but how much respect they wanted from us and how much MORE important it was to them for us to give it to them. Like Hope139 said, I think about what I've said or done to my close guy friends and how much I could have hurt them from little things. I mean I know I've said some stuff after reading the book that was just a little thing that didn't mean anything but it probably effected them greatly. Like I'm one to use sarcasm on a regular basis with my friends&family but that's just in my personality and for the most part I thought they understood that. Especially since a lot of the guys I know are sarcastic but I didn't realize what I was saying as a joke disrespected them.

Also the visual stuff. I mean I don't really like to be friends with the cocky kind of guy that's a jerk or whatever because I just can't tolerate that. I have a lot of decent guy friends and to think of them looking at me in that sense is kind of weird because they're such nice guys. You just think that because you're close enough that they would put an effort and try not to think that stuff about you, but man isn't perfect and of course there will be slip ups. But when I think of all my great guy friends thinking about that stuff it makes me think about what I can do to help them out.

After reading this book (I only read it about a week ago so it's a little hard to tell and considering I won't be seeing many of my guy friends until the fall.) I just know that God will be working on me to be a better person and try and help the guys around me. I think that this book is just God's way to open our eyes as girls of Him to what this generation is doing to the males of the world.

I guess that's it...
-Bee
hannah8908User is Offline

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07/29/2008 10:12 PM  
Nothing really shocked me. I knew that guys needed respect, it's had kind of a strange affect on me compared to what most of you have said. I've learned that my boyfriend is actually pretty open with me which made me feel really good. He lives a couple of hours away, and I went to visit a couple of weeks ago and as I was getting ready to leave he started getting whiny and clingy and I was having a hard time leaving as it is so I told him that he was acting like one of my clients at work (I work with mentally disabled kids) and he didn't tell me then that he was upset, but that night during our conversation on the phone he mentioned that I had really hurt him by saying that and I was able to apologize. There are little things that I do that he probably doesn't mention that I will try to be more aware of from now on, but I wanted to share that story!
xolaneyxoUser is Offline

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08/10/2008 6:34 PM  
I had no idea guys thought Christain God-loving girls were attractive. Honestly, I thought they thought we needed to loosen up a bit. Thank God they think differently
hope8-)User is Offline

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08/20/2008 6:09 PM  
i think the hardest part to hear was that my good christian guy friends and i have a lot of them will see me and then picture me in a sexual way. that part really made me sad!

then to know how much they wanted respect!!! i new they did but not that much! it made me think of some of the times i didnt respect them and made me feel so bad, ill definatly be more carefull!

                                                                                                                        

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GabyUser is Offline

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08/27/2008 2:46 AM  
I would have to agree that the hardest thing to hear was the chapter on respect. I was AMAZED at how much guys valued respect. I read that chapter so many times just to make sure I was getting everything right. It made me very sad to realize that I have (on many occasions by the way) been disrespectful. I'm definetely trying to work on that though.....

God bless ♥

♥Gaby♥

God bless, today, tomorrow and always.......
Gods_GirlUser is Offline

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09/26/2008 10:33 PM  
The part about how most don't go for the Sports Illustrated Babe. I am short. And I'm 14. I hate being short, and I wear glasses, and I always thought that THAT was why guys didn't seem to like me. So the very fact that they don't all go for the stereotypical pretty girl, and that what they really want is for you to be you. And the respect issue, too. I didn't know about that until my Dad made a presentation on that same issue. And that they have to deal with horrible thoughts just because of what girls wear! That was a shocker. As in, once-i-read-that-part-my-mouth-dropped-open-and-my-eyes-got-huge.
And I really liked that book. It explained a lot about what has been bugging me for a long time.

Phil 4:4 "Rejoice in the name of the Lord, alway; and again I say rejoice!"
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