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clare
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| 07/17/2009 6:49 PM |
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I am from Washington and I have an odd age group. Most of my friends are around 16 and that is hard for me not to have a friend my age going through the same experiences I am! (I'm almost 19). I don't hang out with my guy friends really, buy they would all be around 20.
Ya sure girls can be crude but I don't hang out with that crowd. I know more guys that talk about girls and such in a sick way. maybe It's just the small town I'm from? it's a rough part of the country. |
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sometimes He says yes. Sometimes He says no. Sometimes He says wait awhile....
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lugiebros.
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| 07/17/2009 6:55 PM |
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| Our culture today, not the one of one country but whole world, follows in its evil desires. If our christian youth won't value something as important as thier LORD and instaed decide to follow in the ways of the media, then how can we expect them to value the idea of marriage. I know in my heart, along with many others who serve the LORD that tribulation is comming. if our youth of today that claims to be christians don't seek GOD anymore , how can we expect any one else to. the media of the world is going to destroy us, the saddest part is that we are supose to be the light and salt of the world but are not. we could be the only love, and the only jsus anyone we meet could see. yet we will decide to follow the ways of the world, molded by its media, agree with it's ways, and we miss our chance to witness to the lost. |
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David
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| 07/18/2009 1:20 AM |
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Different replies for different people...
Being more apt to wrestle and such does not make a gender crude. "Crude" has a value connotation, when the male propensity towards wrestling and the like does not make men of lesser value than women. In fact, if ever you are in need of physical protection, you will be quite thankful that your guy has that desire in him.
Every generation since Christ has thought they were the last generation before the second coming. The world, right now, is no more evil than it ever has been.
It's probably the people you are hanging around. You are around all the good girls and all the bad guys. This is not rare. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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lugiebros.
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| 07/18/2009 6:24 PM |
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There's actuaul depictions in the Bible that describe what going to happen in the last days. Such prophacies can and only will happen in this century. The last generation is said to be the one that witnesed the revivel of jerusum in the hand s of the jews.It was achieved in a war with the Arabs and didn't occer until 40 years ago. A generation is not defined by the events that happen to them but by the amount of time they are alive on earth. A generation is defined by a forty years period,That 40 year old definition may seem to contradict , but. many of the people that witnesssed its revival in the hands of the jews still havn't died, That is another thing, that this generation is also the one to see the return of christ or the messiah in thier eyes. Another thing is the rebuilding of the 3rd temple, since the 2nd was destryed late in the 1st century. Just last year the pharacies were selected to gaurd the temple. This is significant because there can't be pharacies without a temple, they play a part in the temples role. If you have no pharacies, you have no temple. The next is , if you read world headlines, were moving into another depression. What some fail to comprehend is that this tells of the fall of the western society, leading to a short war, follow by the rise of a one world government. National headlines have said that if we
(the people of the world) don't move into a one world government in the next three years the world will fall into choas because of the next great depresion. There is no way around it, the idea of a one world government wasn't possible until the creation of the EU, aka the revived Roman Empire, that would eventualy be lead by one man, This man needs to have been born in the last century. Believe it or not the antichrist is amoug us, but what he is doing is unknown, but we will know who he is when he personally creates a 7 year treaty to stop the war over the Gaza strip in the middle east. He will win the world through diplomacy then devour it into chaos 42 months into the treaty. Watch what's happening in the middle East right now with the Muslims, Arabs, Palestinians, and the Jews. This is important because before this occurs,the fued with the palestenians, arabs, and the syrians would need to be settled. In zakeriah it cleary indicatets that there will be a pre-war leading into the major war in the tribulation, aka: Armeggedon. Everytghing that is going on now was phrophacied thousands of years ago by the phrophets. It goes further than this in that the battle place of the final battle is megiddo, a plain ranging a thousand miles, in which the world's armies will fight Isreal in three phases. Another thing is it talks about the flesh being melted off a man skin without blood spill. In the history of the world there is only one weapon of mass destrustion that could do this. It's the automic bomb, phrophacied long ago along with the advancement of technolgy , such as cars, tanks, planes, submarines, tv, phones, internet, that allow for the perfect communication of a one world government. Finally about the culture in general , it plays a vidal part, because in this time men will no longer value god. the creation of a one world government wil also lead to the fusion of one supreame religion far from christainity. Babylon will be revived in the last day, the spirit of Babylon being natural rebellion of God in exchange for the pleasures of a sinful lifestyle. In conclusion if our youth of today does't value God's will; then who will, and that will allow for them to fall victim to the beast of revelation. |
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clare
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| 07/18/2009 6:29 PM |
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| wow. That stuff is way confusing to me I try to keep in touch with what's going on in the world but just leave it to God! It's just too much. |
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David
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| 07/18/2009 6:51 PM |
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| Lugiebors, I do not deny that the second coming of Christ could happen in our lifetime, as there are many things, as you point out, that could be interpreted as signs of the end times. My problem is this: a hundred years ago, five hundred years ago, even a thousand years ago someone could have written exactly what you did (of course, relative to their time period) listing off reason after reason why they were the last generation before the second coming of Christ. I'm not end-times expert, but I do know many if not all of what is said in the Bible is open to heavy interpretation, meaning anyone can interpret it for their time period. If you are so sure the end time is within our lifetime, what do you make of the Bible saying that no one but God will know when it will happen? Other than saying it will happen, can you really adequately say it will happen within such-and-such a time period? We should certainly live as if it will happen at any moment, but we can't assume it will. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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JoJo
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| 07/18/2009 7:13 PM |
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Actually yes, I agree David...
I started getting really into endtimes stuff when I read the left behind series... I went and looked up what it said in the bible about what happened in the book to see if they'd written it in a way that could possibly happen.
thats besides the point.
We have a guy @ youth who is convinced that the end times will happen in our lifetime and actually said something along the lines of "it has to have happened by such and such a year" and I was all "Excuse me, but who are we to tell God exactly when he should have His end times!" and he also said something along the lines of "christians will live through it" (which might happen) but them he said this "and don't worry, Christians won't die..." HAH Christians are mostlikely gonna be the ones dying. I mean otherwise the Antichrist is not doing his job very well... why would he let all the christians roam free??
o.k. now that I've got that out of the way...
We do not know the day or the hour of Christ's return and we don't know when the "end times" are gonna be. Remember in the bible the disciples were expecting it to be in their lifetime... that didn't happen. and they too had signs.
For me a BIG sign would be the antichrist himself. and I pray that I'm not around when he comes on the scene.
It would be awesome to see biblical prophesy coming to life, but I know i couldn't handle it and I'd probably sit in a corner all curled up going "We're gonna die, We're gonna die" yeah... when I'm in hard situations I freak out...
but I'm not a 100% expert on end times, so I don't know everything. Like for instance, Christ could return at the start, mid way or at the end of the tribulation. (7 year peace contract antichrist signs etc) and we don't know and thousands have debated it!
and yes, it is true that the temple will be rebuilt, but it will be by the hands of the Antichrist, cuz he then desecrates it...
i donno, maybe it will happen in our time period, but we can't be 100% sure....
And I'll have to end it there, cuz (for the same reason I couldn't read left behind etc at night...) I'm starting to freak out... and I don't need to live a paranoid life right now  no honest, I get really freaked out.
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Turn up the music
Turn it up loud
Take a few chances
Let it all out
'Cause you won't regret it
Lookin' back from where you have been
'Cause it's not who you knew
And it's not what you did
It's how you live
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God Bless!
Mwah XOXO
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JoJo
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| 07/18/2009 7:16 PM |
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| and in my oppinion, things in this world coul;d get "ALOT" worse before the antichrist appears... |
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Turn up the music
Turn it up loud
Take a few chances
Let it all out
'Cause you won't regret it
Lookin' back from where you have been
'Cause it's not who you knew
And it's not what you did
It's how you live
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God Bless!
Mwah XOXO
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Adelynn
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| 07/19/2009 4:50 PM |
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| haha about the girls being crude... yeah, I've fallen into that a couple times. Trying to just be "one of the guys" -ish, mostly. I've mostly changed my ways now *smile* and anyway, the guys that I was impressing weren't really... worth it. |
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"Angel of Mercy, how did you find me? How did you pick me up again? Angel of Mercy, how did you move me, why am I on my feet again?" -One Republic |
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David
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| 07/19/2009 5:19 PM |
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| It's good that you made that realization, Adelynn. However, when I hear girls at their most crude, it's around other girls. They talk about stuff that even the most jaded guy would be shocked at. They aren't just trying to be "one of the guys," but "one of the girls." |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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Adelynn
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| 07/19/2009 7:27 PM |
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| really, David? huh. I guess I have really great girlfriends, then, because I don't know what you're talking about ;-] I mean, I get annoyed with my girlfriends when all they talk about is boys, or makeup, or shopping (gosh I hate shopping...) |
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"Angel of Mercy, how did you find me? How did you pick me up again? Angel of Mercy, how did you move me, why am I on my feet again?" -One Republic |
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David
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| 07/19/2009 9:31 PM |
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| I think that the genders are equal in this respect. There are plenty of guys who are very crude, plenty of girls who are very crude, plenty of guys who are not, and plenty of girls who are not. My problem started with the insinuation that only guys are crude, or that crudeness is inherent to maleness. This is blatantly untrue and is sexist. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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clare
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| 07/19/2009 9:56 PM |
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Well ok then David. I guess I don't know any crude girls and just a lot of crude guys then! In fact I know no girls that would ever say anything bad. I don't mean to be a sexist at all. I sometimes come across hard or blunt. If you saw me when I'm saying this you would change you're mind about me. My bf refuses to discuss sensitive subjects or things like this unless we are together so he can see my face. Really though you sound like an awesome man David!
I just asked my bf if he thinks guys are more crude than girls and he said yes he can guarantee it! He worked as a line man and has seen the world and men and women at their worst and in every bar and sickest situation, the man was always the worst. I should have asked him that earlier. So NOW what do you think?! maybe I don't want to hear it and get labeled again. haha |
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sometimes He says yes. Sometimes He says no. Sometimes He says wait awhile....
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David
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| 07/20/2009 2:50 AM |
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What do I think? I think we live in a culture that is very pro-female and anti-male, and that men fall prey to this flawed thinking as much as women do. Of course your boyfriend will agree that men are the cruder, he is just as much affected by this damaging trend as anyone else. At one point in time I would have agreed that men are more crude. However, now that I've been able to rid myself of said culturally-instilled bias, I can see that women are no better than men.
There is a principle about the genders that must be realized. There is no area of life wherein one gender is inherently worse than the other. Overall, both genders are equally moral or immoral in every area of life. However, it can look different. As has been discussed many times on this very board, a girl's lust will look different than a guy's lust, but they are both equally lusting. Both genders are equally crude.
I would also imagine that you have simply had the misfortune in meeting a bunch of good girls and crappy guys. This does not mean that all guys and girls are this way.
I would caution you to be careful with your thinking. Once you start thinking that your gender is inherently superior to the other in some way, you very well might fall into the trap that many women have (and have been aided in by our culture): a significant gender-superiority complex. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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Abi_xD
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| 07/22/2009 5:10 AM |
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 I have to admit i am a little intimidated by some of the other responses (partically the long, long ones)
i just want to say, that you never know, you might marry another missionary (a woman of course) who understands that in choosing to follow Gods call and be a missionary you may not be as financially loaded as other guys, being a missionary she would probably value more important things than shinny rocks
even if you dont marry a missionary the one you marry should understand you and love you regardless of your financial situation
BUT as someone said before it is a good idea to buy her a proper ring later on when you can because it would mean a lot to her and symbolises your love
I hope i didnt read your question wrong specifically the part where you said you were a missionary, if i did read it wrong just ignore all the stuff i said about missionaries. =]
and yer thats my little contribution |
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David
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| 07/22/2009 11:21 AM |
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BUT as someone said before it is a good idea to buy her a proper ring later on
In what way is buying her a ring proper?
because it would mean a lot to her and symbolises your love
Are you opposed to getting a guy something to symbolize your love to him?
And if you are thinking "it wouldn't mean a lot to him," that's only because we have always been told we don't deserve such a symbol. However, regardless of what the culture teaches, right is right, wrong is wrong, and truth is truth. |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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Adelynn
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| 07/22/2009 2:21 PM |
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| Hey, David, what do you think of women changing their last names to take their husbands? |
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"Angel of Mercy, how did you find me? How did you pick me up again? Angel of Mercy, how did you move me, why am I on my feet again?" -One Republic |
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David
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| 07/22/2009 4:55 PM |
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| I think that, if we are to accept that the man is the overall leader of a relationship, then yes, she should take his name to become one family. I certainly hope my future wife will want to take my name, despite a growing trend of girls not wanting to change their last names. Are you attempting to draw a comparison between a woman being the only one to drop a last name and the man being the only one to give a physical symbol? |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
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Adelynn
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| 07/22/2009 5:24 PM |
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| not exactly, you just have said a lot about gender equality, so I was wondering what you thought of a woman giving up her name |
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"Angel of Mercy, how did you find me? How did you pick me up again? Angel of Mercy, how did you move me, why am I on my feet again?" -One Republic |
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David
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| 07/22/2009 5:56 PM |
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I guess my answer pretty much covered it, haha. I think the name change represents becoming one family (one body, one flesh, etc.). If girls want the guy to be the leader (which most, even if they won't admit it, seem to... every time a girl expects a guy to initiate she is expecting him to be the leader), then she should give up her name and take his.
What do you think of the practice? |
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Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
- C.S. Lewis |
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